PLANNING BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
March 07, 2006
The meeting opened at 7:02 PM with the following in attendance: Helmut Busack, Chairman; Don Bormes, member; Carmine Cioffi, alternate, made voting member in place of Dick Gardner (absent); Cindy Merchant, alternate, made voting member in place of Ralph Carter (absent); Andrew Livernois, Selectmen Representative, and Dave Lorch, Town Planner.
Old Business:
A. Continued public hearing- Subdivision application PO4-SO7 to create a cluster development from both Map/lot 15/64-1 and 15/64-2 located on Route 127 aka New Hampton Road, John and Donna Thompson and Christine and Peter Thompson owners, in the General Residential zone.
Don Bormes steps down from the board at this time.
Dean Clark- DMC Surveyors presents, showing a 15 lot conventional yield plan that shows a 4% total grade and also meets building and septic setback requirements.
Dave Lorch hands out a letter from Robert A. Eaton, Access & Utility Supervisor from NH-DOT. Mr. Eaton states that he made a site visit to the proposed subdivision site on Route 127. He feels that the current site constraints are road geometry, cuts, fills, stonewalls, abutting land, etc. that may prevent any subdivision. He also states that there is a current problem with sight distance in both directions and that reconstruction of Route 127 ( at the developers expense) would be required, if possible, due to site conditions and right of way limitations. He also states that no second drive would be allowed if sight distance criteria cannot be met.
Mike Severt- MJS Engineering , spoke previously to Mr. Haskell (prior Dot District Engineer). Mr. Severt shows a new sight distance plan, showing that the southwest corner of the proposed plan, would have to be cut back to meet sight distance.
William Philpot states that they are looking for a go ahead, to go on to the next phase to engineer the cluster lot subdivision based upon the conceptual yield of 15 lots. He states that the cluster lot subdivision plan will prove or disprove that this development will support 15 lots. Mr. Philpot states for the record, that this is not an attempt to lock the board into 15 cluster lots. If the applicant cannot prove the 15 lots, they will have to settle for something less.
Cindy Merchant questions the applicant about the maximum amount of lots for this cluster subdivision. Cindy also expresses concerns about the wetlands and preserving the natural features of the land. Her feelings are that some of the lots do not look like they could support well, septic and house without disrupting wetlands. Cindy feels that the state should take a look at these sites with their wetlands group.
Mr. Philpot states that the plan shows a maximum of 15 lots and they will have to prove their 15 lots. He also states that without board approval, they are not prepared to go any further with their plans.
OPEN TO PUBLIC:
Katie Surowiec- contacted DOT. DOT knew of the sight distance problem back in 1985 when the original subdivision took place. Her concerns were, steep slope, no test pit information, and the two road access points.
Stan Robinson- doesn't feel that this yield plan shows all the information necessary to support the cluster development.
Mike Severt shows rd. plans that would only impact wetlands by about 10,000 feet which meet all requirements.
Mary Earley- stated that she agreed with Cindy Merchant that the State and their wetlands group should look at these plans and if they agree with the plan the wetlands would no longer be an issue.
Jim O'Neill- feels that there are a lot more wetlands on the site than the plan shows.
Chris Hobby- attests to the fact that the property is very wet and also expresses concerns that the reconstruction of
Rt. 127 will affect her property.
Steve Surowiec- doesn,t feel that the State will allow 2 driveways off Rt. 127.
Don Bormes- questions whether the rd. will be Class V or a private rd.
That determination is in the hands of the Selectmen.
Katie Surowiec- would like to know how the number of homes in a cluster is determined.
Mike Severt- The yield plan is designed based on density, which is based on frontage and acreage.
Public Meeting Closed:
After some discussion among the board, Andrew Livernois makes a motion to accept the yield plan for 15 lots, dates 2/23/2006. NO SECOND.
Cindy Merchant makes a motion to not accept the plan with 15 lots, but to accept it with 10 lots, due to wetlands and steep slopes. NO SECOND.
Helmut Busack makes a motion to accept application PO4-SO7 , yield plan of 2/23/2006, as a 15 lot subdivision- reduced to 13 lots without an option because of wetlands, with DOT driveway approval . Carmine Cioffi seconds the motion. Vote: 2 for and 2 Against. After further discussion there is a change in the vote. Vote: 3 for and 1 against. Motion passed.
B. Continued public hearing- New Hampshire Electric Coop. proposal to trim and/or remove trees along Hale Rd., a designated scenic road. This activity requires a public hearing in accordance to state regulation RSA 231:158.
Brian Ramsey- Coop. Electric Coop operates on easements. They work on 15ft. on either side of poles. Fruit trees/Oriental trees are not allowed to be cut. Dead, weak or leaning trees are the exceptions with landowners permission. He states that there is no more cutting on Hale Rd., there is just trimming around the wires. Mr. Ramsey states that quarterly newsletters are sent out and give notice of the areas to be cut or trimmed. NO PUBLIC RESPONSE.
New Business:
None
Other Business:
Lepene Lawsuit- Boards Attorney Waugh has been given copies of all the minutes and impact studies and any paperwork pertinent to the case.
Planning Board Handbooks- Dave has gotten final copies and will make some up for board members.
Ducharme Subdivision- Public Hearing in Meredith on March 15.
Howard Davine- potential alternate for planning board could not be present tonight. He will attend on 3/21.
Ernie Martel- potential alternate, gets planning board approval.
Don Bormes makes a motion to adjourn meeting at 9:40 pm. Helmut Busack seconds the motion. Vote: Unanimous. Meeting adjourned.
Respeectfully submitted by
Daureen Harding
Planning Board Secretary
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